Deuskyren Avalon Maxwell-Noventa (deus_maxwell) wrote in sporks_and_spam,
Deuskyren Avalon Maxwell-Noventa


A bulletin was posted by a friend of mine on MySpace and it pissed me off. You know why when you get to the all-caps at the end of the original bulletin.

What I read:

pregnancy: a result of having sex so before u take the chance of doing this, read this story and remember this should never be an option

Here is an actual account of a nurse who witnessed a partial birth abortion:

In September 1993, Brenda Pratt Shafer, a registered nurse with thirteen years of experience, was assigned by her nursing agency to an abortion clinic. Since Nurse Shafer considered herself "very pro-choice," she didn't think this assignment would be a problem. She was wrong. This is what Nurse Shafer saw:
"I stood at the doctor's side and watched him perform a partial-birth abortion on a woman who was six months pregnant. The baby's heartbeat was clearly visible on the ultrasound screen. The doctor delivered the baby's body and arms, everything but his little head. The baby's body was moving. His little fingers were clasping together. He was kicking his feet. The doctor took a pair of scissors and inserted them into the back of the baby's head, and the baby's arms jerked out in a flinch, a startle reaction, like a baby does when he thinks that he might fall. Then the doctor opened the scissors up. Then he stuck the high-powered suction tube into the hole and sucked the baby's brains out. Now the baby was completely limp. I never went back to the clinic. But I am still haunted by the face of that little boy. It was the most perfect, angelic face I have ever seen."

But what about if the baby had been aborted at a younger age.. say 6 weeks? When the baby is this young, doctors use the Saline Method, where they inject a salty saline solution into the mother's womb. You would think it would just poison the baby, but it actually burns it to death. Even though the baby is so young, on ultrasounds of the abortion, the fetus is seen pulling away from the poison as it is injected.. obviously wanting to stay alive.

Think about that before you say that unborn children can't feel pain.


Life is life, no matter how small.


What I responded:

Nobody is pro-abortion. No woman wakes up every day and wonders how many babies she can kill in her lifetime as a goal to achieve. That kind of decision is the hardest decision a woman will ever have to make and whatever she decides to do will effect her emotionally, mentally, and physically for the rest of her life. As for this story of partial-birth abortion, the author didn't note whether this was a case of high-risk pregnancy or not, which I find something odd to omit - high risk pregnancies are a danger to not only the baby, but the mother as well and the decision to have their pregnancy terminated is theirs alone and none of anyone else's business. It's a hard enough decision to make without having complete strangers judge you loudly for it without knowing the full circumstances of the mother's situation. I counted it as an option when I was pregnant and, even though I went with adoption instead, it was my decision to make - not yours, not anyone elses, but mine. Does that make me a bad person? The only ones abusing the abortion option are the teenage girls who fuck more than they study and/or will do anything to keep their little boyfriends. And that's all I have to say about that.
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I hate people who think that it's a simple decision. It's not. I had a friend who had to choose, and in my mind she made the wrong decision but I don't criticize her for it. I try to be a better friend and try to understand her more because of it. Sadly, we have parted our ways but I have not told anyone who this friend is becuase she told me in secrecy and wished me to not tell anyone. And I haven't other then like this, where I do not name her.

Well said, Ash-chan. I wish more "pro-life"-types were more understanding like you.
The original poster replied to my comments and here's what she said:

Well, its not really about singleing out any person in particular, its just the idea of killing someone due to ANY reason. I think people who get abortions should die too. Its not fair for the unborn baby to not have a choice. Its not the babies fault that people fucked someone they didn't want to have a kid with. I think the child should LIVE no matter what. Its not the mothers choice to grow a baby, its her choice to have sex. And as far as I'm concerned, people get what they deserve. If someone is going thru emotional loss, then HA HA HA HA HA to them! They should have thought about that in the first place before slutting around. Now the poor child has no choice to live because someone else decided to end its life. Anyone who thinks of killing an unborn child for ANY reason, is fucked in the head. That means that they don't want the child alive. And it sickens me. Sorry that this may have offended you, It wasn't ment to offend anyone in particular. I just think abortion is sick and wrong and anyone who does it deserves whatever they get thats negative from the procedure. How is is pro choice when the child (the one that matters) doesn't have a choice? Whats wrong with adoption? Why murder for your own selfishness? Fucked up world we live in.

((It's the inability to close one's mouth and open one's mind - and eyes - like this that annoys me. *rolls eyes))
*pulls out my shotgun* people like that really do need to be shot ^.^

On antoher note, I'm pro-life but at the same time, I partially belive in abortion. Let me explain.

The only times that I think abortion should be done is when:
1) The mother is ill or may have serious side effects from the birth that would be dangerous to her health
2) The mother is sick right now and may not be able to carry the baby to term.
3) The baby is ill and it's almost a sure thing that if it is born, it will die within hours.

Everyone has their own opinion but some people really need to "think before you speak" more often. ^.^

That's my two cents.

*nodnods* I totally agree on your points - thanks, hon. You and I are living proof that pro-life and pro-choice can co-exist peacefully. ^_~